Ex Richmond (Melbourne, Fremantle) football club(s) CEO Cameron Schwab is back and this time, he and Craig talk about what it takes to succeed and what we can learn from those who find a way to perform at the highest level (it’s about much more than talent and genetics). They also discuss the lessons and lightbulbs in the new(ish) Netflix Documentary Series ‘The Last Dance’, the value and power of being adaptable, herding cats, the complexity of managing and leading elite athletes, whether or not we can be simultaneously satisfied and ambitious and Cam gives us a health update following his recent surgery for prostate cancer. We love Cam. Enjoy.designceo.com.auSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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