This conversation was a roller-coaster of humour, information and emotion, as well as a convergence and divergence of ideas and perspectives. What I love about TYP, is that it's not an echo chamber of ideologies and opinions. With these chats, the goal is not agreement or alignment, or feel-good conversational fairy floss but rather, critical thinking, authentic conversation and maybe a few lightbulb moments. These was plenty of laughter and silliness in this episode, but there were also some moments where I put down the funny stick and got a little serious about things that matter to me (and l'm sure, some of you). As always, Patrick and Tiff, were great (but that f***ing Craig, he can get a little intense). Enjoy.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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