Every so often, I share an interview that l've done on someone else's podcast because I feel the conversation is worth sharing directly with my listeners and obviously, today is such a day. l've known Andrew May (host of Performance Intelligence) for more than twenty years, so you won't be shocked when I tell you that this conversation is a somewhat 'loose' affair, with a liberal smattering of objectionable language, stories and opinions but fortunately, there is also a healthy serving of science, strategy, high-performance and insight. Enjoy.www.andrewmay.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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