What if your highest potential is hidden behind the stress you've been avoiding? In this enlightening episode of the unPerfected Podcast, Brooke Jean sits down with Dr. Stephanie Van Deynze-Snell. Stephanie is a veterinarian, co-owner of a large veterinary hospital, and a flow-state coach, consultant and speaker. Through Stephanie's 12-year journey scaling her business while also navigating motherhood, she embraced the personal growth needed to allow sustainability in success, and find joy again, in her work and life. Experiencing the struggles many people face, including burnout, she is now on a mission to support others, sharing what she has learned. Recently, this resulted in a strong interest in flow science and research, which studies how to work WITH our biology to thrive. She is on a mission to support high achievers in finding more flow in their day to day lives, reaching higher potentials of performance AND wellness. When not at work, Stephanie can be found spending time with her family and friends, usually somewhere in nature. She enjoys being active, connecting with people, traveling, and exploring new places, cultures, and ways of living.  Through laughter, metaphors, and mic-drop moments, you'll learn why regulating your nervous system is non-negotiable, how to identify "backward arrows" holding you back, and why rewriting your definition of "easy" is the ultimate act of self-leadership. Whether you're in a messy middle or mapping a new chapter, this episode is your permission slip to flow forward. Ready to break the cycle of hustle and tap into your highest self? Let's flow. Highlights 00:00 – 04:00 The Messy Middle & Emotional Access Introducing Dr. Steph and the messy middle of transformation. Embracing flow through emotional release. How somatic breakdowns can become breakthroughs. Being seen in your real, not your worst. A preview of flow, change, and conscious evolution. 04:01 – 12:00 Building & Leading a Multi-Million Dollar Vet Business Buying a million-dollar vet clinic with no business background. Experiencing early CEO overwhelm during a power outage. Learning leadership and business skills through experience. Investing in training to run a business like a true leader. Scaling to 50 employees and quadrupling revenue. 11:59 – 20:01 Scrappy Not Hustling: Betting on Yourself Investing in self as seriously as business tools. The "race horse" metaphor for embodied self-worth. Rejecting scarcity and embracing resourcefulness. 10X mindset as a path to creative problem-solving. Why risk-taking became a gateway to flow. 20:02 – 29:59 Flow Science Meets Real Life Discovering flow through the Flow Research Collective. Flow as the intersection of peak performance and fulfillment. Coaching teams with heart-led leadership and neuroscience. Understanding individual and group flow dynamics. Building environments where flow can naturally arise. 30:00 – 43:59 Rewiring, Stress Cycles & the Power of Rest Completing the stress cycle to unlock growth. Sympathetic vs. parasympathetic state explained. Why rewiring happens in rest, not hustle. Rethinking self-care as a leadership responsibility. Breaking the burnout-performance loop through biology. 44:00 – 01:04:12 Flow Blocks, Beliefs & Sustainable Self-Leadership The river and riverbank metaphor of flow. Backward arrows that block momentum. Redefining "hard" as stretch and purpose. Boundaries as a prerequisite for freedom. Letting flow be easy—even when it's uncomfortable. Conclusion.   Tweetable Quotes:   "Flow makes things easier, but that doesn't mean it's always comfortable." — Dr. Stephanie Van Deynze-Snell  "If you're always in a stress state, you're never integrating — you're just accumulating." — Dr. Stephanie Van Deynze-Snell "Perfectionism is often a way of swimming upstream — trying to fix every rock in the river." — Dr. Stephanie Van Deynze-Snell  "We all want freedom, but freedom requires structure. Freedom isn't free." — Dr. Stephanie Van Deynze-Snell   *This is not medical advice. Please consult with a professional before making any changes   Join Social Goats! https://www.socialgoats.com/pages/landing-page?referral=BrookeJeanUnperfected Social goats Livestream, Sundays at 5pm MST: socialgoats.live Social Goats Episode with Brooke: https://www.youtube.com/live/AvDkpdPh_zQ?si=Q8_qp7gMYEDUjO1l Brooke's Social Goats WIN! Sundays at 6pm MST: https://us06web.zoom.us/j/81445901825?pwd=SCIadkvIzOaqwnWBUb4FmhtER9n7FX.1 FREE Perfectionism Detox Masterclass: https://www.brookejeanllc.com/perfectionism-detox Unstuck & Unstoppable Masterclass: https://www.brookejeanllc.com/unstuck-and-unstoppable FREE Immediate Calm Down Kit: https://brookejean03.activehosted.com/f/7 Get Unstuck: 5 Therapeutic Steps to Take Aligned Action: https://www.brookejeanllc.com/get-unstuck   You can connect with Dr. Stephanie Van Deynze-Snell through her: Email: [email protected] Instagram: @dr.stephv Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanie-van-deynze-snell-556405188/   You can connect with Brooke Jean through her: Website: Brooke Jean LLC Facebook: Brooke Jean LinkedIn: Brooke Jean Instagram: @brookejeanunperfected   #FlowState #NeuroscienceOfFlow #SomaticHealing #PurposeDrivenLeadership #ScrappyAndAligned #WomenInBusiness #BurnoutRecovery #SelfLeadership #PerfectionismRecovery #StressCycle #FlowOverHustle #IntentionalLiving #HeartLedLeadership #Neurobiology #MindBodySpirit #EntrepreneurLife #PivotAndThrive #MessyMiddle #UnperfectedPod #BrookeJean

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