What can we learn about the Prime Minister's chief adviser from his own words?Guests: Ian Leslie, writer and journalist.Steven Swinford, The Times' Deputy Political Editor.Hosts:Manveen Rana and David Aaronovitch.Clips: BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Sky News, The Telegraph. Additional music by Meydän, Daniel Birch, Chris Zabriskie and Jordan Powell used under Creative Commons licence.This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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