Donald Trump is under pressure as libertarian demonstrators insist their freedom is being infringed by lock down. Has the virus revealed the gap between the President's rhetoric and the reality of governance? And is the pandemic changing his re-election chances?Guests: Josh Glancy, Washington Bureau Chief for The Sunday Times.Julie Kelly, senior contributor for political blog American Greatness.Host: David Aaronovitch. This podcast was brought to you thanks to subscribers of The Times and The Sunday Times. To enjoy unlimited digital access to all our journalism subscribe here. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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