The morning after Dylann Roof murdered nine people in the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church of Charleston, South Carolina, all of the flags on South Carolina State House grounds went to half-staff—except for one. So began the current nationwide debate about the Confederate flag. More chillingly, Roof had draped himself in that flag in Facebook photos and he seemed to champion the cause that flag represents.

In this podcast, Stephen dips into the history of the Confederacy a bit and then gives his firm views on the matter. What he contends most passionately is that the debate about the Confederate flag has distracted us from a more substantial debate about racism in America.

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