Too often, we define long prison sentences as "justice." But when we define incarceration as justice, it creates a big problem. Parole, or the end of a person's incarceration, can feel like we're losing out on justice. I know well the feelings connected to this. I have my own family's experience with homicide. And I have talked and listened to many other folks affected by homicide.For this episode, we talk with Jamel and Jose, New Yorkers who served long prison sentences and were subject to New York's parole process. And we talk with Carol, who served on the Parole Board before leaving and becoming a critic of New York's system. And you know this podcast, we don't just talk about what is wrong with punishment. We talk about what can work better! Our guests talk about better approaches to transforming people and preventing future harm. Full transcript and useful links at https://www.beyondpunishment.org/problem-with-punishment/ep-5-problem-with-parole

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