Lisa sits down with fellow personal trainer turned social worker, Elyse Schunkewitz, LCSW, to talk about why and how they’ve both moved from more traditional modalities of therapy to improving their own lives and the lives of their clients with an integrative, mind-body-soul approach.
Topics Include:

Western medicine vs holistic healing 

Pathologizing the human experience

Functional neuroscience

Rejection therapy


[2:00] Elyse talks about her early career in a psychiatric emergency room in a public New York City hospital and how leaving that job and her own healing and weaning off a plethora of psychotropic medications led her to a career of helping other people feel amazing from a mind-body-brain lens
[15:00] Elyse and Lisa share their experiences as clinical social workers and clients themselves, practicing in modalities they were trained in and have an awakening that these traditional approaches did not honor clients as mind-body-soul systems
[33:00] Elyse shares specifically what she learned that changed the orientation in which she sees the world and helps her clients heal
[43:00] Elyse reveals the power of not being afraid to fail and what it unlocked in her life
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