In this episode, host Niall sits down with Laura Perrins from Gript Media to discuss a high-profile case currently unfolding in Utah — the suspected murderer, Tyler Robinson, is increasingly likely to face the death penalty. Together, Niall and Laura explore the moral, legal, and practical dimensions of capital punishment.Is it justice, deterrent, or an inhumane relic? What are the arguments for and against? And how do public opinion, cost, racial and racial bias, mistakes of justice, and international norms come into play? Niall also invites callers to share their own views and personal stories on whether the death penalty has a place in modern society.Example Talking Points:Pros could include:Deterrence: The idea that the death penalty may discourage others from committing serious crimes.Retribution / justice for victims: Some people feel that the most violent crimes deserve the severest punishment.Closure: For some families, knowing that the perpetrator cannot possibly harm again brings a sense of finality.Cost savings (argued by some): Supporters sometimes say that executing someone will, over time, cost less than keeping them in prison for life (though this is highly disputed).Cons might include:Risk of wrongful convictions: Innocent people have been sentenced to death and then exonerated.Moral / ethical objections: Some believe state-sanctioned killing is inherently wrong.Unequal application: Evidence that race, socio-economic status, quality of legal representation, or geography have strong impacts on who is sentenced to death.High cost and complexity: Death penalty trials are typically longer, more expensive, with multiple appeals; sometimes cost more than life imprisonment without parole.

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