The conversation between D C Schindler (PhD professor of metaphysics and anthropology) and Jordan Hall (pioneer of disruptive technologies) emphasized the need to bridge the domains of science, philosophy, and theology to gain a deeper understanding of the transcendent and its implications for human identity and the pursuit of knowledge. Timestamps follow announcements: Reminder there is still time to sign up for Estuary Northwest 2024, the Face to Face conference in Olympia, WA September 12th or 13th through the 15th. Signups at https://www.estuarynorthwest2024.com. Speakers include Paul VanderKlay, Dr. Chris Green, Graham Pardun, Rafe Kelley, dr. Michael Martin and me. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 05:00 The radical nature of our problems are getting us to the heart of the matter.05:43 The excitement of the synchronicity of unicorns! 16:00 Subject object loop of learning 19:50 The immanent and the transcendent 24:00 Faith as Reality in relationship with us 27:00 The consequences of lived multiculturalism, the global village and Marshall McLuhan 29:00 Challenges of communication across ideological boundaries 40:40 Discussing the video clip of Michael Levin's discussion with Karl Friston and Chris Fields on the idea of novelty and the transcendent. Where does novelty come from? 48:00 Exploring the concept of novelty and the isness of objects. Novelty is not strange (Heidegger) 50:45 Banal novelty and the booby trapping of metaphysics. Seeking a deeper understanding of the concept of metaphysics and its relationship to theology. 58:30 Developing the premise of the relationship between the transcendent and personal relationship with reality. (The nature of faith, reason, and the transcendent). 1:07:18 Recasting the self in the transformative experience. 1:10:36 The principles of design and beauty in art and nature intersecting with the principles of science and metaphysics. 1:18:04 Discovering art as a continuity of contact with the transcendent 1:22:07 The relationship between truth, science, art, and religion. 1:26:30 Announcing the upcoming conference in Olympia, Washington.

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