In this episode, Laura interviews Julie Phillips, an award-winning author, biographer and book critic who wrote the influential book - Baby on the Fire Escape, where she explores the complex relationship between creativity and motherhood through the lives of some of the most important women artists of the 20th century.. Together, they unpick the challenges and stereotypes of motherhood and creativity, highlighting the conflict between societal expectations and personal desires. Julie advocates for the importance of maintaining individuality as a parent, shares her personal experiences with journaling, and emphasises the need for structural support for mothers, including paid parental leave and affordable childcare.Your host is writer, artist and midwife, Laura Godfrey-Isaacs. To find out more, head to https://www.maternaljournal.org/.

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