Gabby's back! So we are hearing all about her trip, including insight into a Heurta family obsession. We're also talking about chatty pilots, city fashion and the new season of Shiny Happy People and the late 90's, early 00's fundamentalist Christian movement. Whew! It's a beefy one! Enjoy!  Don't forget! The Making An Effort Podcast is a listener supported podcast. If you want access to bonus episodes, community chat, and provide input, we'd love you to consider supporting us at www.patreon.com/makinganeffortpodcast

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