This recap episode highlights Edward Snowden's perspective on the ruling that deemed the NSA's bulk collection of US phone records illegal, seven years after he exposed the programme. Snowden argues that this mass surveillance, enabled by laws like the Patriot Act, is a significant violation of privacy that failed to prevent terrorist attacks and creates a dangerous precedent for government overreach. He also discusses end-to-end encryption as a necessary defence against surveillance, legislative attempts to undermine it under the guise of protecting children, and the problematic use of malware like Pegasus by governments to target dissidents and journalists. The conversation also touches on the lack of accountability for government officials who break the law and the controversial use of the Espionage Act against whistleblowers like himself and Julian Assange, arguing for the importance of transparency and public interest defence in such cases.---We all love The Joe Rogan Experience and much prefer the real thing, but sometimes it's not possible to listen to an entire episode or you just want to recap an episode you've previously listened to. The Joe Rogan Recap uses Google's NotebookLM to create a conversational podcast that recaps episodes of JRE into a more manageable listen.

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