“I'm chasing a lot of things and I just find that that keeps me going. That keeps me motivated. That's what makes me want to keep going and striving for more. And then the more I start to change and I can start to see the change in those around me, drives me even more to wanna keep changing because it's really cool when you can share something with someone and then you start to see that they're making changes in their life. And that's a really, really, really big motivator for me is to have that I influence and that effect and that impact and in someone else's life.”

Episode #121 of The Hope Initiative with Ebany Vanderheym.

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