In this episode, hosts Tabitha May-Tolub and Chris Rappold welcome back Dr. Max Klau, a developmental psychologist and author, to discuss the intersection of inner development and systems change. They explore the importance of shadow work in leadership, the balance of humility and ambition, and the risks associated with idealism in servant leadership. Max shares insights from his new book and emphasizes the need for courageous wholeness in leadership. The conversation also touches on the global movement for inner development goals and the significance of inviting others into inner work.

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