During this episode, co-hosts Scott Allender and Jean Gomes talk to Cath Bishop, former world champion and Olympic silver medal winning rower, and conflict diplomat who worked in some of the world’s most challenging regions including Bosnia and Iraq. In October 2020, Cath's first book "The Long Win: The Search for a Better Way to Succeed" was published and listed by the Financial Times as one of the best business books of 2020. Social: Instagram           @evolvingleader LinkedIn             The Evolving Leader Podcast Twitter               @Evolving_LeaderSend a message to The Evolving Leader team After more than 5 years of hosting The Evolving Leader, Jean Gomes and Scott Allender are launching their new show The Mindset Economy in January 2026. The new show will explore how to live better, work smarter and be connected in a more uncertain world where machines can think. Available wherever you get your podcasts.

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