Elizabeth and Roger continue to wrestle with writing and also discuss people who love meetings, details vs. quality, having the world crash around you, the ups and downs of grants, and a double dose of Roger's Leadership Academy.   Show Notes: Roger on Twitter Elizabeth on Twitter Effort Report on Twitter Get Roger's and Elizabeth's book, The Art of Data Science Subscribe to the podcast on Apple Podcasts Subscribe to the podcast on Google Play Find past episodes Contact us at theeffortreport @ gmail.com Podcast art by Maggie Matsui

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