Roel Vertegaal (@roelvertegaal) is a Dutch-Canadian interaction designer, scientist, musician and entrepreneur working in the area of Human-Computer Interaction. He is a Professor at Queen's University's School of Computing where he directs the Human Media Lab and is best known for his pioneering work on flexible and paper computers, with PaperWindows (2004), PaperPhone (2010] and PaperTab (2012). He is also known for inventing ubiquitous eye input, such as Samsung's Smart Pause technologies.“In the near future, a computer will have any shape or form, and flexible computer displays will start appearing on any product of any form. These Organic User Interfaces will be completely embedded in real world interactions.” You can listen right here on iTunesIn our wide-ranging conversation, we cover many things, including: * The future of computing interfaces and why it is not what you think * What is on the near-term horizon in terms of holograms * How technology transforms society and cultural norms * The big problem with conflicting interests creating filter bubbles, fake news and overly aggressive Facebook * Why AR and VR are overhyped and ultimately not the answer * The problems with voice and Alexa-like products for functionality * How communication can break down or be enhanced online * The problems Roel sees in today's world and what causes them * Roel passion for quantum computing and potential implications * The reason Roel is very worried about climate change * Why Roel believes startups and tech companies should have higher moral character * The awesome effects of flexible computers, phones and interfaces * Why the lab is always 10-15 years ahead of commercial companiesTranscriptProducing this podcast and transcribing the episode takes tons of time and resources. If you support FringeFM and the work we do, please consider making a tax-deductible donation. If you can’t afford to support us, we completely understand as well, but an iTunes review or share on Twitter can go a long way too! Roel:  I think that what we're like today society is kind of characterized by problems which are a digital domain. I think the Internet has done certain things to communication that are not desirable and twenty years ago I started working on something called an attentive user interface which is now in the iPhone 10. This idea that you can't consume the user's attention forever and think that there's no consequence. You need a filter. You need to filter messages coming in who who get a notification from who do not get a notification from [Inaudible] things like like [Inaudible] Right! And so I think the problem. The real problem with the Internet is that it doesn't have filters anymore. So I perceive future we just had a stack of digital paper it's like it's in a paper and you can have as many as you want twenty twenty documents or something like that and you can either use them to render one key document or you have different apps on them. They're interoperable they work together as if they were windows on a computer. The only reason we have windows on the computer by the way is because you only have one display so we have to carve out these tasks these task areas arti...

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