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In this episode…
Welcome back to the Deep-Sea Podcast, your punk take on all things deep sea! Join Alan in the Industrial Badlands of the Canary Islands as he cuts holes in ships, while Thom rubs elbows with New Zealand’s political elite.
In the news, get ready for updates on:
A meeting in Perth to discuss the Red List status of Deep-sea organisms.
Deep-sea desalination techniques
Capturing Octopus movements for robot creation
Common Starfish with a juicy booty and one country’s massive love for divestreaming
How deep-diving beaked whales might be our closest helpful relatives
On the Discord, we’ve been busy with:
A new patron, welcome Hugoshibo!
Custom-milled keels for a bespoke handmade USV.
Critter photos from a ghost diving trip.
Debated the necessity of jars in legitimising a science career.
Baby Dumbo paper and adorable baby photos shared by Kat.
Deep Sea Lino cut prints happening on canvas.
Ceramic hagfish sculptures and blown glass mermaids purses complete with kelp.
NotOurDog made an appearance, and much talk about Oreo cafes and CAKE!
Guest Interview
Tyler Greenfield is a paleontologist and cryptozoologist whose blog, Incertae Sedis reveals the truth behind some cryptozoological stories and paleontological mistakes. Since his appearance on episode 10, Tyler has finished his bachelor’s, written a good few papers, appeared on other podcasts (none as good as his debut of course) and is almost done with his masters and is about to start his PhD. He was even a credited consultant on the new (2025) Walking with Dinosaurs.
Support the show
The podcast is self-sustaining (just) thanks to our lovely listeners. Thom and Alan take no money for the show. All money is put back into running it. Here’s a link to our page on how to support us, from the free options to becoming a patron of the show. We want to say a huge thank you to those patrons who have already pledged to support us:
Hugo Shiboski
Check out our podcast merch here!
Feel free to get in touch with us with questions or your own tales from the high seas on:
[email protected]
We’d love to actually play your voice, so feel free to record a short audio note on our brand new answerphone!
https://www.speakpipe.com/deepseapodvoicemail
Thanks again for tuning in; we’ll deep-see you next time!
Find out more
Social media
BlueSky: @deepseapod.com
Twitter: @DeepSeaPod
Instagram: @deepsea_podcast
Keep up with the team on social media
Twitter:
Alan - @Hadalbloke
Thom - @ThomLinley
Instagram:
Thom - @thom.linley
Inkfish - @inkfishexpeditions
BlueSky:
Thom @thomaslinley.com
Reference list
Discord Updates
Join our Patreon to get access to the Discord
https://www.patreon.com/c/deepseapodcast
News
Te Papa Biodiversity Centre Press Release
Deep-Sea Desalination Pulls Fresh Water from the Depths | Scientific American
Deep-sea octopus footage could revolutionize flexible robot design - Earth.com
Humans descend into huge deep-sea canyon for first time ever. What they find is astounding | Discover Wildlife
Flourishing chemosynthetic life at the greatest depths of hadal trenches | Nature
The deepest-diving whales could inspire new treatments for stroke and cancer | National Geographic
Neurodegenerative Diseases: What Can Be Learned from Toothed Whales? - PMC
The original article for our unfortunate ‘squid’ image
“Colossal Squid Filmed Alive for the First Time”: Juvenile Deep-Sea Monster Captured on Camera in South Atlantic Stuns Scientists - Sustainability Times
How A Golden Nurse Shark Made History
Interview
Tyler’s master’s/doctorate research
https://usercontent.one/wp/pecescriollos.de/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/PI-04-Greenfield-2022-List-of-skeletal-material-from-megatooth-sharks.pdf
https://usercontent.one/wp/pecescriollos.de/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/PI-06-Shimada-Greenfield-2022-Responses-to-Skeletal-material-from-megatooth-sharks.pdf
Tyler’s work on Onchopristis and other sawskates
Blogposts:
https://incertaesedisblog.wordpress.com/2020/05/18/onchopristis-is-a-sawskate-not-a-sawfish/
https://incertaesedisblog.wordpress.com/2022/01/12/updates-on-sawskates/
https://incertaesedisblog.wordpress.com/2022/04/12/fact-checking-planet-dinosaurs-onchopristis/
https://incertaesedisblog.wordpress.com/2022/11/25/the-earliest-discovery-of-a-sawskate/
Other papers by Tyler:
https://www.mapress.com/bn/article/view/bionomina.22.1.3
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356911837_Sawskates_Rajiformes_Sclerorhynchoidei_and_the_concept_of_pristification
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357752727_Sawskates_Rajiformes_Sclerorhynchoidei_and_the_concept_of_pristification
https://mapress.com/mz/article/view/mesozoic.1.2.3
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1464343X25000081
Some of Tyler’s work on megalodon in cryptozoology
https://www.journalofscientificexploration.org/index.php/jse/article/view/3041
https://zenodo.org/records/7903372
https://zenodo.org/records/13285787
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2CZMfyHQAM&t=528s
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/385383987_The_history_of_Otodus_megalodon_in_cryptozoology
Further Reading
Onchopristis paper by Eduardo Villalobos-Segura et al
The BBC posted a clip of Spinosaurus hunting Onchopristis from "Walking with Dinosaurs" on YouTube, which anyone should be able to watch. The entire episode should be available for free on the BBC website for anyone in the UK and on the PBS website for anyone in the USA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBPlZNfemmM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002csns/walking-with-dinosaurs-series-1-2-the-river-dragon
https://www.pbs.org/video/the-river-dragon-siyrjh/
AI coelacanth hoax
https://sharonahill.com/fake-california-coelacanth/
Three-fingered alien mummies
Paleontologist Rodolfo Salas-Gismondi’s skeptical analysis of the mummies.
Former paleontologist Clifford Miles’ website and ‘paper.’
https://web.archive.org/web/20231216230358/https://www.themilespaper.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/20231223232419/https://www.themilespaper.com/_files/ugd/5a322e_bf4471a1eba54eae9290f61265f6e25c.pdf
YouTuber History with Kayleigh made a skeptical video about Miles’ work, which would be more savory to link.
Nazca Mummies Are A New ALIEN Species?!
Credits
Song of the month: This might be it by Hyphen
Logo image: AI image originally used by Sustainability Times- AI images are not made by humans and cannot be copyrighted.
Phone answering machine from Sound Effects Factory
Theme: Hadal Zone Express by Märvel
In this episode…
Welcome back to the Deep-Sea Podcast, your punk take on all things deep sea! Join Alan in the Industrial Badlands of the Canary Islands as he cuts holes in ships, while Thom rubs elbows with New Zealand’s political elite.
In the news, get ready for updates on:
A meeting in Perth to discuss the Red List status of Deep-sea organisms.
Deep-sea desalination techniques
Capturing Octopus movements for robot creation
Common Starfish with a juicy booty and one country’s massive love for divestreaming
How deep-diving beaked whales might be our closest helpful relatives
On the Discord, we’ve been busy with:
A new patron, welcome Hugoshibo!
Custom-milled keels for a bespoke handmade USV.
Critter photos from a ghost diving trip.
Debated the necessity of jars in legitimising a science career.
Baby Dumbo paper and adorable baby photos shared by Kat.
Deep Sea Lino cut prints happening on canvas.
Ceramic hagfish sculptures and blown glass mermaids purses complete with kelp.
NotOurDog made an appearance, and much talk about Oreo cafes and CAKE!
Guest Interview
Tyler Greenfield is a paleontologist and cryptozoologist whose blog, Incertae Sedis reveals the truth behind some cryptozoological stories and paleontological mistakes. Since his appearance on episode 10, Tyler has finished his bachelor’s, written a good few papers, appeared on other podcasts (none as good as his debut of course) and is almost done with his masters and is about to start his PhD. He was even a credited consultant on the new (2025) Walking with Dinosaurs.
Support the show
The podcast is self-sustaining (just) thanks to our lovely listeners. Thom and Alan take no money for the show. All money is put back into running it. Here’s a link to our page on how to support us, from the free options to becoming a patron of the show. We want to say a huge thank you to those patrons who have already pledged to support us:
Hugo Shiboski
Check out our podcast merch here!
Feel free to get in touch with us with questions or your own tales from the high seas on:
[email protected]
We’d love to actually play your voice, so feel free to record a short audio note on our brand new answerphone!
https://www.speakpipe.com/deepseapodvoicemail
Thanks again for tuning in; we’ll deep-see you next time!
Find out more
Social media
BlueSky: @deepseapod.com
Twitter: @DeepSeaPod
Instagram: @deepsea_podcast
Keep up with the team on social media
Twitter:
Alan - @Hadalbloke
Thom - @ThomLinley
Instagram:
Thom - @thom.linley
Inkfish - @inkfishexpeditions
BlueSky:
Thom @thomaslinley.com
Reference list
Discord Updates
Join our Patreon to get access to the Discord
https://www.patreon.com/c/deepseapodcast
News
Te Papa Biodiversity Centre Press Release
Deep-Sea Desalination Pulls Fresh Water from the Depths | Scientific American
Deep-sea octopus footage could revolutionize flexible robot design - Earth.com
Humans descend into huge deep-sea canyon for first time ever. What they find is astounding | Discover Wildlife
Flourishing chemosynthetic life at the greatest depths of hadal trenches | Nature
The deepest-diving whales could inspire new treatments for stroke and cancer | National Geographic
Neurodegenerative Diseases: What Can Be Learned from Toothed Whales? - PMC
The original article for our unfortunate ‘squid’ image
“Colossal Squid Filmed Alive for the First Time”: Juvenile Deep-Sea Monster Captured on Camera in South Atlantic Stuns Scientists - Sustainability Times
How A Golden Nurse Shark Made History
Interview
Tyler’s master’s/doctorate research
https://usercontent.one/wp/pecescriollos.de/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/PI-04-Greenfield-2022-List-of-skeletal-material-from-megatooth-sharks.pdf
https://usercontent.one/wp/pecescriollos.de/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/PI-06-Shimada-Greenfield-2022-Responses-to-Skeletal-material-from-megatooth-sharks.pdf
Tyler’s work on Onchopristis and other sawskates
Blogposts:
https://incertaesedisblog.wordpress.com/2020/05/18/onchopristis-is-a-sawskate-not-a-sawfish/
https://incertaesedisblog.wordpress.com/2022/01/12/updates-on-sawskates/
https://incertaesedisblog.wordpress.com/2022/04/12/fact-checking-planet-dinosaurs-onchopristis/
https://incertaesedisblog.wordpress.com/2022/11/25/the-earliest-discovery-of-a-sawskate/
Other papers by Tyler:
https://www.mapress.com/bn/article/view/bionomina.22.1.3
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/356911837_Sawskates_Rajiformes_Sclerorhynchoidei_and_the_concept_of_pristification
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357752727_Sawskates_Rajiformes_Sclerorhynchoidei_and_the_concept_of_pristification
https://mapress.com/mz/article/view/mesozoic.1.2.3
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1464343X25000081
Some of Tyler’s work on megalodon in cryptozoology
https://www.journalofscientificexploration.org/index.php/jse/article/view/3041
https://zenodo.org/records/7903372
https://zenodo.org/records/13285787
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2CZMfyHQAM&t=528s
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/385383987_The_history_of_Otodus_megalodon_in_cryptozoology
Further Reading
Onchopristis paper by Eduardo Villalobos-Segura et al
The BBC posted a clip of Spinosaurus hunting Onchopristis from "Walking with Dinosaurs" on YouTube, which anyone should be able to watch. The entire episode should be available for free on the BBC website for anyone in the UK and on the PBS website for anyone in the USA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBPlZNfemmM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002csns/walking-with-dinosaurs-series-1-2-the-river-dragon
https://www.pbs.org/video/the-river-dragon-siyrjh/
AI coelacanth hoax
https://sharonahill.com/fake-california-coelacanth/
Three-fingered alien mummies
Paleontologist Rodolfo Salas-Gismondi’s skeptical analysis of the mummies.
Former paleontologist Clifford Miles’ website and ‘paper.’
https://web.archive.org/web/20231216230358/https://www.themilespaper.com/
https://web.archive.org/web/20231223232419/https://www.themilespaper.com/_files/ugd/5a322e_bf4471a1eba54eae9290f61265f6e25c.pdf
YouTuber History with Kayleigh made a skeptical video about Miles’ work, which would be more savory to link.
Nazca Mummies Are A New ALIEN Species?!
Credits
Song of the month: This might be it by Hyphen
Logo image: AI image originally used by Sustainability Times- AI images are not made by humans and cannot be copyrighted.
Phone answering machine from Sound Effects Factory
Theme: Hadal Zone Express by Märvel
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