The deal at this year's COP conference in Dubai is being hailed as "historic" because it's the first time nearly 200 countries have all acknowledged the role of fossil fuels in Climate Change. But critics says the agreement is riddled with loopholes, and that the pledge to "transition" from oil, gas, and coal is too weak.So who's right? And what difference will this year's discussions make? Graihagh Jackson gets the low-down from COP from BBC Climate Editor Justin Rowlatt, and she talks to three leading experts on Climate Change diplomacy.Guests:
Adil Najam - Professor of International Relations, Earth and Environment at Boston University's Pardee School, USA
Dr Musonda Mumba – Secretary General for the UN Convention on Wetlands
David Victor - Professor of Innovation and Public Policy University of California, San Diego, USA.Email us: [email protected]: Osman Iqbal, Octavia Woodward
Editor: Simon Watts
Sound mix: Graham Puddifoot and Tom Brignell

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