Podcast: The Anti-Dystopians (LS 25 · TOP 10% what is this?)Episode: Why Finance Guys Are Trying to Offshore the PlanetPub date: 2025-11-05Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationOn this episode, Alina Utrata talks to Connor O'Brien, a PhD Candidate at University of Cambridge researching a conceptual history of good governance and sovereign debt. They discussed a little-known tool for climate finance called "debt for nature swaps". While they might sound nice, they're actually an insidious tactic of finance guys taking control of government policies amidst the green energy transition. But also they discussed how these financial tools also show more broadly the power of international financial regimes and their relationship to state sovereignty, local power and control and authoritarian or private power. For a complete reading list from the episode, check out the Anti-Dystopians substack at bit.ly/3kuGM5X.You can follow Alina Utrata on Bluesky at @alinau27.bsky.socialAll episodes of the Anti-Dystopians are hosted and produced by Alina Utrata and are freely available to all listeners. To support the production of the show, subscribe to the newsletter at bit.ly/3kuGM5X.Nowhere Land by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4148-nowhere-landLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Alina Utrata, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

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