In this powerful conversation, Ashlee and Colleen sit down with Kristina Hudson—occupational therapist, bestselling author, and coach—who helps women break free from toxic and narcissistic relationships. Drawing from her own experience of surviving a traumatic divorce, Kristina shares how the cycle of narcissistic abuse impacts not only emotional well-being but also physical health through constant nervous system dysregulation.She introduces her RISE Method to help women recognize warning signs, understand the abuse cycle, and begin rebuilding self-trust one small, empowering choice at a time. Kristina also highlights the importance of supportive communities, safe therapy, and daily rituals that restore balance and self-worth after leaving unhealthy relationships.In this episode you’ll hear:The phases of narcissistic abuse and why “love bombing” isn’t loveWarning signs of toxic patterns and how to spot them earlyHow trauma bonds affect the nervous system and physical healthThe role of self-care, rest, and support systems in healingPractical ways to rebuild self-trust through small daily actionsWhy leaving a toxic relationship, though difficult, leads to freedom and a healthier futureKristina’s book Rise Up and Thrive (available on Amazon)Free quiz: Is Your Relationship Narcissistic?Kristina’s coaching program Message Me First Special offer for listeners: a 50-minute call with Kristina (normally 20 minutes)If you’ve ever doubted yourself, felt stuck in a toxic dynamic, or struggled to rebuild after heartbreak, this episode will give you validation, hope, and tools for reclaiming your life.Follow us on the Gram: Ashlee & Colleen

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