Zoologist, ecologist, wildlife photographer, and very well-travelled, we've mentioned Josh in a few previous episodes, it was about time we had him on!Not long back from 5 weeks in the jungles of Sumatra, we delve into his experience, covering the incredible species he saw, the challenges facing both wildlife and conservationists, some good signs of ecotourism, and what would be great to see going forward. And, in true Birdy Bug Pod fashion, we hear about some of the passionate and dedicated people working hard to protect Sumatra's truly invaluable habitats.From surreal encounters with orangutans and elephants to illegal orchid hunters and falling into a river whilst looking for a crocodilian, this episode really does have it all!We appreciate that it is quite a long episode (you can use the timestamps to hop about), but with his experiences and absolute wealth of knowledge, we could have easily chatted to Josh for another 3 hours.We had a fantastic time recording this episode, we really hope you enjoy it.Check out Josh's Instagram to put pictures to the stories: @phangurha_nature*Quick note: The Tapanuli Orangutan is the most endangered Great Ape, rather than the most endangered primate.Timestamps00:00 Intro to Josh00:11:05 Why Sumatra00:18:48 Ecotourism & habituated orangutans00:28:01 Deforestation & seeing Sumatran Elephants00:37:23 Conservation challenges00:40:04 Illegal orchid hunters00:47:25 Conservation & more ecotourism00:51:49 Positive conservation in Sumatra00:56:04 Seeing wild orangutans01:01:54 Other wildlife highlights01:14:03 Losing both cameras01:16:58 Camera chat01:17:52 Josh's next trip01:22:18 Josh's bucket list places & species01:25:01 ClosingGet in touch:Please do feel free to get in touch if you have any questions, feedback, or just want to say hi! Ping us a message on Instagram:Steve - @a.bird.in.the.lensMatthew - @a.bug.in.the.lensLinks:Learn about the passionate conservationist Pungky - Pungky Nanda Pratama - Sumatra Nature & Biodiversity Conservation (snbcf.org)Pungky's Instagram @pungkynandapratamaWatch the orangutan grabbing a woman clip here.

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