In this episode we explore useful tricks of the trade when it comes to smooth operations. Specifically, when providing for large groups such as huge school groups or team building retreats, how can we be extremely organised, efficient, safe and effective in the way that we plan and execute the programs.The guest is Sawyer Chen, Managing Partner of Imagine China, good friend of Pete and a stellar example of someone who is always incredibly effective at managing projects with large groups in the outdoors.

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