Vanessa Walilko is the host of the Personal Pans podcast, and guest on this episode of The Age of Transitions. No one ever said that arcane matters had to be dark and scary, so come join us by listening to our brief conversation.  Topics include: Personal Pans podcast, Pans Paracon, nerd communities, Book It, fundamentalist religion, belief systems, occult info online, metaphysical and physical realities, intelligent design, mathematics and measurements, thoughts, consciousness, missionary work rejected by South American indigenous community, ancient mysteries, paranormal, media literacy

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