After more than 20 years of working in church ministry—mostly behind the scenes in production and with creative teams—I’ve picked up a few lessons along the way. In this episode my wife Emily and I sit down in our living room (after the kids went to bed) to talk through some of the biggest things I’ve learned about leadership, teamwork, and navigating the unique world of church work.Whether you're on a church staff, part of a volunteer team, or just curious about what happens behind the scenes, we hope this casual conversation encourages and maybe even inspires you.This is part one of a two-part series—thanks for listening!

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