Entrepreneur #22 out of 100: Konrad Pawlus from Krakow, PolandKonrad Pawlus didn’t grow up with early access to tech: he got his first laptop at 17. But that didn’t stop him from co-founding SALESmanago, one of Europe’s largest and most influential marketing automation platforms, and successfully exiting the company as CTO.As I mentioned in the last episode, I recorded this conversation in Krakow, where I was hosting a congress. I asked around for local founders to meet, and someone recommended Konrad. Her previous boss, she said, had exited his company and now owned a huge Barbie collection. It turned out it was a bit more nuanced than that, but ofcourse I was curious. Twenty-four hours later, we were recording this episode.We talk about the mental load of entrepreneurship and how Konrad found a way to balance that pressure: by collecting LEGO minifigures. In true founder style, he automated the entire process. Eventually, the collection outgrew his house and became a full-blown museum.In this episode, we explore the one thing that helps him step away from the daily intensity of building companies:💡 Why every founder needs a hobby💡 How stepping away from work can create space for new ideas💡 And why Konrad insists his museums are not businesses (even though they’re run like one)A sharp and personal conversation about focus, energy, and the unexpected benefits of building something just for yourself.

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