In this episode, I talk to Dave Thomas -- co-founder of the Pragmatic Bookshelf, signer of the Agile Manifesto, promoter of Ruby and Elixir, and more! Dave has thought a lot about expertise in software development, and I really enjoyed our conversation -- ranging from his history to our feelings about some of the core concepts in expertise research.

Note: Dave's audio picked up some environmental noise that I was unable to reduce. My apologies!

References:
- Dave's site
- The Pragmatic Bookshelf
- The Pragmatic Programmer
- Programming Ruby (the pickaxe book)
- the Dreyfus model

Credits:
- Theme music: “Puzzle Pieces” by Lee Rosevere. Available for use under the ⁠⁠CC BY 4.0 license⁠⁠, at ⁠⁠Free Music Archive⁠⁠⁠

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