Rob Walling guest hosts this seminal episode to walk Jason and Justin down memory lane during which they discuss how Rob wouldn't allow Jason to invest in Drip, Appignite, Pluggio, AnyFu, Uber, the interview wth Travis Kalanick, Nugget, the madness, luck surface area, entreporn, blog posts as lead gen and how to make yourself into expert on the web, Jason's prescience on Tesla and Bitcoin, the interview with Patrick Collison, how they got started doing the podcast and what they've gotten out of it, the meaning of some of the funnier show titles, Operation Superhero, the failure that was Justin's treadmill desk and how the show has evolved over the years.

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