John discovers the subtle difference between prison inmates and referees, and unveils a new jingle candidate for his Quote of the Week segment. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders whether ancient philosophers would’ve been discouraged if they had put their ideas on Facebook and tells the story of Oprah Winfrey and a wheelbarrow full of fat.  Plus, a conversation about what liberty really looks like vs. what we think it is.  Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Airplane Pillows: “When you want to sleep on a flight, but also want to walk around with a neck brace all day.”   Want this episode AD-FREE?: https://www.patreon.com/talkaboutthat  FOLLOW Jonnie W.: https://jonniew.com FOLLOW John Driver: https://johndriver.com Listen now on any platform at http://talkaboutthatpodcast.com  WATCH/SUBSCRIBE on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwjExy_jWIdNvGd28XgF2Dg Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

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