Kate and Elsie talk about inspirations for Undertale and Deltarune, including 1997’s groundbreaking moon: Remix RPG Adventure.Topics: The gamer ideology. Love and experience. Why do we love video games, even though they almost all suck? Chapter 3’s game within a game. The (sorry) Halloween Hack. One ending. Goodbye, Dragon Inn and Car Seat Headrest. Too much content. Lightner merch. How to synthesize narrative and gameplay? Is Smash Bros more narratively compelling than Twine games? Death Stranding, Disco Elysium and how to carve out space for narrative in commercial environments. CHAPTER 7 ENDING REVEALED. The prophecy as game code.Music by The Thelonious Monkees from moon: Remix RPG Adventure.Join the SURVEY_PROGRAM Discord or follow on Bluesky.Check out Hywell's new album coming Friday!Subscribe on Spotify / Apple Podcasts / RSS.

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