“Meno-divorce,” divorces and separations initiated by women during perimenopause and menopause, are on the rise. Divorce is often painted as failure, conflict, or shame. But what if it could be something else: a process rooted in dignity, communication, and even hope for the future? In this episode of Surfing the Quicksand, attorney Rebecca Neale joins Kathy to explore what it means to navigate divorce with compassion and clarity. With nearly two decades of experience, Rebecca has guided clients through some of the most difficult transitions of their lives, from amicable separations to contested cases involving domestic violence. Rebecca shares why intentional language matters, how co-parenting is really a lifelong group project, and why the decision to divorce can sometimes be the bravest (and healthiest) choice for everyone involved. She also opens up about her own story, why even a lawyer needs her own lawyer, and how mediation can unlock creative, unexpected solutions. Whether you’re considering divorce, supporting someone through it, or just curious about how to build healthier approaches to life’s big transitions, this conversation offers practical wisdom with a compassionate perspective. Episode Highlights Reframing divorce: not failure, but a life transition that can be handled with dignity. The importance of language in co-parenting and modeling respect for children. How “quiet, amicable work” builds resilience and stability for families over time. The realities of non-amicable divorces and how Rebecca supports clients’ agency and safety. Mediation as a powerful tool for problem-solving and cooperation, even in high-stakes situations. Resources and Mentions:  Book a consultation: www.bedfordfamilylaw.com   FB: https://www.facebook.com/bedfordfamilylaw/  IG: https://www.instagram.com/bedfordfamilylaw LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bedfordfamilylaw/   Trends in divorce rates in adults over 50:  Bowling Green State University Center for Family and Marriage Research https://www.bgsu.edu/ncfmr/resources/data/family-profiles/FP-24-22.html# and citing Brown & Lin, The Graying of Divorce: A Half Century of Change: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35385579/  7 out of 10 women blame perimenopause / menopause in the breakdown of their marriage - The Family Law Menopause Project and Newson Health Research and Education https://www.raw-marketing.co.uk/portfolio/family-law-menopause-project/  About Rebecca Neale Attorney Rebecca Neale, J.D., helps people navigate some of the most difficult challenges in their lives. She has advocated for people in conference rooms and courtrooms for almost two decades. Now she runs a small law firm, Bedford Family Law, in the suburbs of Boston, focusing on divorce, custody, and estate planning with compassion, professionalism, and expertise. 

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