In this episode, Lisa and And speak with MikeMonteiro, author, speaker, and co-founder of Mule Design. They talk about how change happens in companies, the early days of the web, and Mike's new talk, My People Were in Shipping. They also discuss what's next for Mike Monteiro, the difference between concerts and shows, and Mike picks the musicians in his all-time supergroup. Episode Transcript About Mike Monteiro Author of Design Is a Job and You're My Favorite Client. Giver of barnburning talks about ethics and responsibility in design. Leader of workshops that fill people with the confidence to do the jobs they were hired for. Show Notes Mule Design  My People Were in Shipping  Image Maps  Table Layouts  Blink Tags  The Collected Angers (Bookshop) Medium Designers Unionized    Music References Corey Taylor Little Red Corvette  Chris Cornell One  Dave Grohl's Article about Concerts  Sam Goody  Electric Fetus  Amoeba  Knitting Factory  Floating Record Player (with JB Picture Disc)    Mike Monteiro's Dream Band Vocals - Aretha Franklin Bass – Mike Watt (Minutemen, Firehose) Guitar – Prince Harp & Piano – Alice Coltrane Horns – John Coltrane Drums – Questlove  

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