Baz and Loz crack open a conversation that many business owners are too afraid to have: What happens when you're burnt out... but you still have to work?Loz shares the moment her body made the decision for her—collapsing on a Saturday night, convincing herself she'd be back by Wednesday, only to break down at her desk in tears. Baz remembers barely functioning through his own burnout in the Prison Service, pushed past the brink despite having “support” on paper. These aren’t just stories—they're warnings wrapped in lived experience.Together, they reflect on what it really means to be purpose-driven in a world where founders are expected to push through at all costs. No sick pay. No team to lean on. No option to stop. Through their ICE Method and the 3 Ps (Pause, Pivot, Push), they don’t just offer tools—they offer hope. Hope that you can breathe again, make space, and still keep the business you love alive.If you’ve ever felt the weight of carrying it all, this episode is your permission slip to pause, breathe, and remember you’re not alone.

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