Season Two continues as our host, Rush Witt, sits down with author and Pastor Jerome Gay. Rush and Jerome talk about the challenges of ministry in our current culture, the important art of being winsome in conversation, and how pastors and Christians can productively engage others in discussion about difficult social topics like race. JEROME GAY ONLINE Jerome's Website Facebook X InstagramThe Urban Perspective (Youtube) MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE  African HeroesTalking to Your Children about Race Learn more about the podcast here.      Timestamps: 0:20 - Intro1:25 - There are many good things keeping Jerome busy in life and ministry.3:50 - Jerome founded a ministry called the Urban Perspective.6:25 - What has been your point of view on keeping the gospel central in our highly charged societal issues.9:10 - How to be winsome in conversation with others17:00 - What are some ways individuals and churches can wisely engage in social issues?25:55 - Jerome shares two helpful books he agreed with and two he disagreed with28:00 - What would Jerome do with a $10 million inheritance?31:05 - Farewell

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