Hank welcomes John Podesta (Former White House Chief of Staff and Founder, Center for American Progress and the Washington Center for Equitable Growth) to Straight Talk. They discuss division in politics, the role of think tanks in the policy world, the risks and challenges of climate change, and the biodiversity crisis. Podesta shares insights into how politics has changed since he first headed to Capitol Hill in the 80s, his theory of change, and strategic competition between the US and China.

John Podesta: www.americanprogress.org/person/podesta-john/
Center for American Progress: www.americanprogress.org/
Washington Center for Equitable Growth: https://equitablegrowth.org/

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