Gladys H McNeice was a post-secondary educator but was known by many for her work as a regional historian and author. At time stamp 4:45 the episode turns into an audio recording from a Historical Society Meeting where Gladys talks about her research of the Ermatinger Family and the Ermatinger Old Stone House. So you can end the episode in just under 5 minutes or continue to listen as Gladys herself shares her new findings from her travels to southern Ontario to gather more information on The Eramtings and also comes across some new findings on John Prince. .Most of the research for the episode was completed by Justen Brett the Sault Museum's Research Assistant. 

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