Brothers Phil and Chris of the band 4 Normandy share how Andrew's music inspired them to play music together and how it keeps them connected even today. We talk about their own music at the beginning and how that came together, then transition into our conversation about the Andrew McMahon song we chose. You'll hear some of their own song, "Alive" within the episode, as well as in the outro. You can stream this song and others wherever you like. The Spotify link to their music is below. Song Audio: https://youtu.be/1OxW5c42o4s?si=Y_OQ-tccwnRCBWjW 4 Normandy on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1DbbOzpdDqQ837KjYARGSf?si=tenrsQuQQ2-G4uRAr-yBmA Live in Los Angeles, 2008: https://youtu.be/u_9yl5yZ68E?si=dEzmGdvUtne_r1Gq Live at Sound Check, Pittsburgh, 2025: https://youtu.be/Dd6R2IkTRAE?si=LWdyQBuzGLu9C_CF Andrew discusses the song, 2009: https://youtu.be/YYc62PTjekA?si=iGtIxsAVEeFNIfWv 4 Normandy (Phil & Chris' former band) Starland Ballroom performance: https://youtu.be/ka186RIAS-s?si=nz8S7JB_7JSEk3Mf

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