What if science was more than a weapon in the fight against diseases like COVID-19? Biologist Rachel Krause talks about the ecology of pandemics: they are a natural result of living with other species. Philosopher and theologian Chris Huebner looks to the past, and opens up an unusual book during lockdown. He concludes that nothing about COVID-19 is "unprecedented."

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Theme Music: Urbana-Metronica (wooh-yeah mix) by spinningmerkaba (c) copyright 2011 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/jlbrock44/33345 Ft: Morusque, Jeris, CSoul, Alex Beroza

Interlude Music: Whisper by Robbero (c) copyright 2014 Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution (3.0) license. http://dig.ccmixter.org/files/Robbero/44803

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