What if trust — not control — was the secret to creative leadership and culture?In this episode, Jill sits down with Jay Gutnick, founder of Teal Canvas, a values-driven art business he co-leads with his wife Rachel. What began as a personal commission has grown into a community of over 100 artists, clients and collaborators — all connected through a model that values people over process. Together, Jill and Jay explore how the right piece of art can shift a workplace culture and remind us that the built environment is as human as it is structural.

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