We talk to the remarkable Sam Ernst. He tells his story of instant success in the restaurant business followed by early failure in the entertainment industry and what he learned along the way.Sam explains his relationship with writing partner Jim Dunn, the benefit of working so closely with someone - particularly during the dark days - and their path to becoming a success.He tells us about the early breakthrough with Haven, how they were out of their depth and learning on the job, and how it took some frank advice to get them back on track after falling out of favor with the studio.An in-depth and honest discussion with a thoughtful and articulate writer, restauranteur and raconteur.

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