We're taking the summer off and will be republishing some of our favorite episodes from the archives through August. This episode originally aired October 14, 2020.
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Kyle Chayka writes about art, technology, design, and the systems that shape culture. His first book, The Longing for Less, is a cultural history of minimalism that looks at minimalist movements in art, music, and philosophy. In this episode, Jarrett and Kyle talk about how minimalism often obscures complex systems, how all culture writing is also design writing, and the role of structure in his writing process.

Kyle's new book, Filterworld, is now available and you can read him weekly in The New Yorker. Links from this episode can be found at scratchingthesurface.fm/164-kyle-chayka.

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