An Interview with Carey Nieuwhof. In our interview today you'll hear Carey share about:

- Carey's journey from lawyer to highly successful church pastor to internationally known and acclaimed leadership coach.

- How he successfully handed over leadership of his rapidly growing church - and the succession lessons he learned for all leaders

- The degree of denial he sees in church leadership during the COVID crisis - and the blind spots we're all facing as leaders.

- The crucial distinction between pivoting and innovating - and how he has applied that in his own business.

...and much, much more.

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