4PM: Are the Packers a HOT MESS Organization Right Now? Plus, More Updates from Bricktown!

14/11/2025 51 min

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Episode Synopsis

Jim Rutledge & Molly Brown carry on from their separate locations with Jim still out taking care of business (literally) in Oklahoma City. Jim catches us up on his trip to the Thunder-Lakers game last night, his splendid bananas foster lunch, and how he DOMINATED his breakfast burrito this morning! Plus, producer Primetime shows us Jim's latest dad-style updates on Instagram! They actually get into the sports with the Packers, who are starting to feel like a HOT MESS (in the words of Evan Cohen) -- there's questions about Matt LaFleur's play calling, whether he and Gutey are on the hot seat until they get contract extensions, and the deteriorating roster with injuries and the lack of depth from Gutey's roster build. How much can the Packers continue to rely on Jordan Love and this young roster with unproven players like Matthew Golden? They ask today's Siding Unlimited poll question -- What’s more likely to happen with the rest of this Packers season: Make the Playoffs or Matt LaFleur gets fired? Jason Wilde joins Jim & Molly, and he's THRILLED to be here on a Thursday! They discuss Packers fans calling for Matt LaFleur's job and if the Packers are starting to feel like an unstable organization. Molly asks Jason, who's more likely to get their contract renewed at this point -- Gutey or LaFleur -- and what if it's neither? Jim also asks if Hafley's defense is proof against Gutey's philosophy that prioritizes youth development over veteran leadership.

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