Alex gives Kathy a rundown of their cautious optimism for visionOS, and how we can have more agency in this new era of computing. Becoming more cyborgian can mean we also learn how to be more human.

Kathy wants Alex to calm down because she's focused on preparing for Relay FM's annual Podcastathon to raise money for St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. TOMORROW, Friday, September 22nd!

Alex notes that these two events, one weird and abstract, another weird but also a concrete way to help the fight in eradicating childhood cancer.

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