Between Two Nerds: The limits of cyber power

16/09/2025 30 min

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Episode Synopsis



In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq talk about the limits of a state’s cyber power.

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Show notes


Dave Aitel's CyberSecPolitics post on cyber power metrics

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