On this special episode of the Rise and Build Podcast, we’re joined by John and Mary Helen Wheeler—best friends who have been married nearly 58 years. A pastor and educator, their lives have been marked by faith, resilience, and deep love. Together, they share timeless wisdom on building a Christ-centered marriage, walking through seasons of joy and grief—including parenting two children, one of whom is now in heaven—and what it truly means to grow together through life’s highs and lows. This conversation is rich with encouragement, legacy, and the beauty of enduring love.

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