What Do Cold Plunges, K-Pop, and Loyalty Clubs Tell Us About Consumer Behavior?Shifting the focus from real estate to consumer behavior, Chris Ressa and Natalie Chambers, Executive Creative Director at the Dealey Group, dive into the shifting landscape of what makes the consumer tick. Natalie shares three standout trends that you might not expect —ancient wellness rituals, pluralversal storylines, and the rise of social silos—and Chris debates her on what’s hype versus what’s here to stay.From cold plunges and sound baths to Korean corn dogs and Baseball Lifestyle 101, the conversation weaves together fun examples with deeper insights on belonging, loyalty, and retail programming. They also cover the balance between convenience and dwell time, debating how shopping centers should position themselves for consumers who want it all.Part debate, part discovery, this episode looks at how AI, culture, and community are reshaping what it means to shop—and what it means to connect.What you'll hear: How the rise of AI is pushing consumers toward both high-tech convenience and “ancient wellness” rituals like cold plunges and sound bathsWhy pluralversal storylines—from K-pop hits to unexpected food trends—are reshaping cultural consumptionThe growing power of social silos and loyalty clubs in making shoppers feel like they belongChris and Natalie’s spirited debate on convenience vs. dwell time and what it means for shopping centersReal-world examples of how retail can turn “points on a map” into places people loveChapters00:00 Understanding Consumer Behavior02:51 The Impact of AI on Consumer Trends05:58 Exploring Ancient Wellness Trends08:57 Plural-versal Design in Consumer Culture11:54 The Rise of Niche Markets and Social Silos17:55 Balancing Convenience and Dwell Time in Retail20:48 Implementing Insights in Real Estate Marketing23:46 The Future of Retail in an AI-Driven World

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