S9 E5 — There is a lot of conversation right now about the role of women and men in society. Whether we’re talking about the Jeffrey Epstein scandal or the viral essay "The Great Feminization" and all the commentary it sparked, it’s clear we’re in a cultural moment where we don’t quite know how to talk about men and women. Should we see men and women as interchangeable? What does equality look like when our bodies are not the same? Can we admit our neediness and maintain our dignity as women or as men? These are some of the questions I'm asking Leah Libresco Sargeant as we talk about her new book, The Dignity of Dependence.00:00 The World is the Wrong Shape for Women6:14 The Lie of Autonomy and How It Harms Everyone21:09 Building a Just Society: Dismantling False Anthropology22:52 Understanding Disability and Unemployment25:43 Societal Examples of Dependent Communities30:15 The Dignity of Dependence32:51 Legacy of Care in Society38:20 The Costs of Devaluing Vulnerability41:14 Practices for Embracing DependenceMENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:The Dignity of Dependence: A Feminist Manifesto by Leah Libresco SargeantSara Hendren’s What Can a Body DoAmy Julia’s interview with Sara Hendren: Who Belongs? Disability and the Built World with Sara Hendren_WATCH this conversation on YouTube: Amy Julia Becker on YouTubeSUBSCRIBE to Amy Julia's Substack: amyjuliabecker.substack.comJOIN the conversation on Instagram: @amyjuliabeckerLISTEN to more episodes: amyjuliabecker.com/shows/_ABOUT OUR GUEST:Leah Libresco Sargeant is the author of several books, including The Dignity of Dependence. She runs the substack Other Feminisms, which focuses on how to advocate for women as women in a world that makes an idol of autonomy. She lives in Maryland and works in family policy in D.C.Other Feminisms: https://www.otherfeminisms.com/Twitter: https://twitter.com/leahlibresco__We want to hear your thoughts. Send us a text!Connect with me: Instagram Facebook YouTube Website Thanks for listening!

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